{"id":4402231126396,"date":"2025-06-17T13:31:32","date_gmt":"2025-06-17T13:31:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/bhhypcmjisrc\/"},"modified":"2025-10-20T17:38:53","modified_gmt":"2025-10-20T21:38:53","slug":"listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/","title":{"rendered":"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-purple-200-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-7fbe80e72c5fd64141a5dfa002dca1ba\" style=\"border-radius:5px;color:#ffffff\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p><strong>Listen on Your Favorite Platform<\/strong><br><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0YaRzLqoNdyw6Ykb3wVwS9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/nonprofits-now-leading-today\/id1806707793\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/6ba86615-31fe-4b7f-a255-2d9042d8da29\/nonprofits-now-leading-today\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Amazon<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/castbox.fm\/channel\/id6552004?utm_campaign=ex_share_ch&amp;utm_medium=exlink&amp;country=us\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Castbox<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@chronicleofphilanthropy\/videos\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">YouTube<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/play.pocketcasts.com\/podcasts\/605c6010-f3b3-013d-470b-02bb5ef11301\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Pocket Casts<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"ArticlePage-articleContainer\">\n<div class=\"ArticlePage-articleBody contentBody\"><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000196-6d2d-db08-a7f6-6defec0e0000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Rich Text\"}-->\n<div class=\"RichTextArticleBody\">\n<div class=\"RichTextArticleBody-body RichTextBody\"><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000196-34af-d5f6-a7bf-b5efedab0000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Image\"}-->\n<div class=\"Enhancement\" data-align-center=\"\">\n<div class=\"Enhancement-item\"><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000196-34af-d5f6-a7bf-b5efedab0000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Image\"}-->\n<figure class=\"Figure\"><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Enhancement\" data-align-center=\"\">\n<div class=\"Enhancement-item\">\n<div class=\"HtmlModule\">\n<p class=\"podcastLink\"><span style=\"font-size: revert;\">As leaders at every nonprofit \u2014 no matter the size or cause \u2014 grapple with challenges to their missions and finances, it\u2019s especially important to tap into the wisdom of executives who have helped their organizations weather previous threats.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Barron Segar is one of those leaders. He took over as head of World Food Program USA just a few months before Covid ripped across the globe.<\/p>\n<p>Before that, he worked as executive vice president and chief development officer at Unicef USA, and he is a founding executive board member of the Elton John AIDS Foundation, serving more than 30 years on the National Board of Directors.<\/p>\n<p>In our new episode of Nonprofits Now: Leading Today, Segar walked host Stacy Palmer through the ways he is persevering through current leadership challenges. He discussed how he is talking to his staff and leaders about preparing contingency plans in case funding gets tight; how he decided to call staff back to the office a few days a week and explained his rationale; and why he put into the budget money for each staff member to take advantage of professional development.<\/p>\n<p><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000195-e8fd-d6af-a195-f9ff72860000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Module\"}--><\/p>\n<div class=\"Enhancement\" data-align-center=\"\">\n<div class=\"Enhancement-item\"><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000195-e8fd-d6af-a195-f9ff72860000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Module\"}--><br \/><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000195-e8fd-d6af-a195-f9ff72a10009\",\"typeLabel\":\"HTML Embed\"}-->\n<div class=\"HtmlModule\">\n<div style=\"padding: 75% 0 0 0; position: relative;\"><iframe src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/1093152843?badge=0&amp;autopause=0&amp;player_id=0&amp;app_id=58479\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><\/p>\n<p>Among his advice for leaders:<\/p>\n<p><b>Candor with staff is essential, especially in anxious times.<\/b> Segar says he is optimistic by nature, but sometimes he has to force himself to recognize that it\u2019s better to be frank about challenges. A senior colleague of his recently told him to be open about the fact that he has asked his top leaders to develop contingency plans for funding cuts. \u201cWe are all aware of what\u2019s happening around the world and in the economy,\u201d his colleague said. \u201cIt\u2019s better for us to know.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>Always ask about the staff\u2019s capacity to handle a new project<\/b>. Segar says too often leaders move forward with multiple innovative projects before asking questions about the domino effect on a range of departments, such as marketing, communications, and development. Looking at the full impact could mean it\u2019s better not to take it on \u2014 or to add more staffing before proceeding.<\/p>\n<p><b>Changing course is okay.<\/b> Segar says he is driven by data to make decisions, but when he sees new information that changes his view, he is quick to move in a different way than he originally planned.<\/p>\n<p><b>Ask donors what the organization is doing right and where it needs to improve.<\/b> \u201cYou\u2019d be amazed what you can learn from these individuals who are trusting your organization with their philanthropy,\u201d he says. And he makes it a point to share what he hears with the staff \u2014 especially about what motivates supporters \u2014 to help boost team morale.<\/p>\n<p>To hear more from Segar on leading in challenging times, see <!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7933-d766-a39f-fdb35e260000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7933-d766-a39f-fdb35e260000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><a class=\"Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/article\/two-ceos-share-insights-on-leading-in-challenging-times\">this interview<\/a><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--> he did with Anne Aslett, head of the Elton John AIDS Foundation.<\/p>\n<p>For more advice on leadership, check out these article from the <i>Chronicle<\/i>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7934-d505-abff-fd7e7b1b0000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7934-d505-abff-fd7e7b1b0000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><a class=\"Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/article\/a-really-tough-job-nonprofit-ceos-work-to-make-their-roles-more-manageable\">A Really Tough Job: Nonprofit CEOs Work to Make Their Roles More Manageable<\/a><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><\/li>\n<li><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-793a-de7d-a3d7-fd7f87800000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-793a-de7d-a3d7-fd7f87800000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><a class=\"Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/article\/me-and-my-shadow-a-peer-learning-model-helps-leaders-grow\">Me and My Shadow: A Peer Learning Model Helps Leaders Grow<\/a><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><\/li>\n<li><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-793b-d505-abff-fd7f1a550000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-793b-d505-abff-fd7f1a550000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><a class=\"Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/article\/how-to-retain-skittish-donors-amid-the-economic-turbulence\">How to Retain Skittish Donors Amid the Economic Turbulence<\/a><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><\/li>\n<li><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7938-de7d-a3d7-fd7f8c1d0000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7938-de7d-a3d7-fd7f8c1d0000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><a class=\"Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/article\/tips-to-maintain-your-well-being-amid-tariffs-layoffs-and-recession-talk\">Tips to Maintain Your Well-Being Amid Tariffs, Layoffs, and Recession Talk<\/a><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><\/li>\n<li><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7939-de7d-a3d7-fd7f349c0000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7939-de7d-a3d7-fd7f349c0000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><a class=\"Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/article\/how-to-find-fundraising-mentors-and-best-learn-from-them\">How to Find Fundraising Mentors \u2014 and Best Learn From Them<\/a><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><\/li>\n<li><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7939-d1f1-a5f7-7b3de5690000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-7939-d1f1-a5f7-7b3de5690000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><a class=\"Link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/article\/show-how-your-nonprofit-is-making-a-difference-10-dos-and-donts\">Show How Your Nonprofit Is Making a Difference: 10 Dos and Don\u2019ts<\/a><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And for more leadership insights, turn to our special report, \u201c<!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-793b-d6b5-afb7-fb7be5f40000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectBegin {\"id\":\"00000197-793b-d6b5-afb7-fb7be5f40000\",\"typeLabel\":\"Link\"}--><a class=\"Link\" href=\"https:\/\/store.philanthropy.com\/products\/leadership-at-the-crossroads-report\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Leadership at the Crossroads<\/a><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd-->.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><i>Nonprofits Now: Leading Today <\/i>is produced by Emily Haynes and Reasonable Volume, with editorial direction from Margie Fleming Glennon and support from Kyle Johnson.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--BrightspotCmsObjectEnd--><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ArticlePage-questionsConcerns\"><i>We welcome your thoughts and questions about this article. Please <a role=\"link\" href=\"mailto:editormail@philanthropy.com\" aria-labelledby=\"email the editors\">email the editors<\/a> or <a role=\"link\" href=\"mailto:letters@philanthropy.com\" aria-labelledby=\"submit a letter to the editor\">submit a letter<\/a> for publication.<\/i><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Drawing from a long career in philanthropy, Barron Segar discusses the important role leaders play as a steady hand during challenging times.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":365206,"featured_media":4402231124373,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"content-type":"","cop_editorial_slug":"","cop_asana_id":"","editorial_asana_id":"","editorial_doc_id":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[81923],"issue":[],"profile":[],"role":[191049],"series":[192023,191117],"topic":[],"coauthors":[190012],"class_list":{"0":"post-4402231126396","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","6":"hentry","7":"category-solutions","8":"role-leading","9":"series-nonprofits-trump","10":"series-nonprofits-now","12":"has-featured-image"},"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.9 (Yoast SEO v26.9) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges &#8211; Chronicle of Philanthropy<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Drawing from a long career in philanthropy, Barron Segar discusses the important role leaders play as a steady hand during challenging times.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Chronicle of Philanthropy\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ChronicleOfPhilanthropy\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2025-06-17T13:31:32+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2025-10-20T21:38:53+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"1680\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"1120\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"No User\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:creator\" content=\"@Philanthropy\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:site\" content=\"@Philanthropy\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"No User\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#\/schema\/person\/a0106e94cff6e5757225faa5edbe3ab0\"},\"headline\":\"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges\",\"datePublished\":\"2025-06-17T13:31:32+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2025-10-20T21:38:53+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/\"},\"wordCount\":601,\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg\",\"articleSection\":[\"Solutions\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/\",\"name\":\"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges &#8211; Chronicle of Philanthropy\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#website\"},\"primaryImageOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#primaryimage\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg\",\"datePublished\":\"2025-06-17T13:31:32+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2025-10-20T21:38:53+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#\/schema\/person\/a0106e94cff6e5757225faa5edbe3ab0\"},\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#primaryimage\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg\",\"width\":1680,\"height\":1120,\"caption\":\"Nonprofits Now\"},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/\",\"name\":\"Chronicle of Philanthropy\",\"description\":\"News, Opinion and Advice about Philanthropic Giving\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#\/schema\/person\/a0106e94cff6e5757225faa5edbe3ab0\",\"name\":\"No User\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/author\/no-user\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO Premium plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges &#8211; Chronicle of Philanthropy","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges","og_description":"Drawing from a long career in philanthropy, Barron Segar discusses the important role leaders play as a steady hand during challenging times.","og_url":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/","og_site_name":"Chronicle of Philanthropy","article_publisher":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ChronicleOfPhilanthropy","article_published_time":"2025-06-17T13:31:32+00:00","article_modified_time":"2025-10-20T21:38:53+00:00","og_image":[{"width":1680,"height":1120,"url":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg","type":"image\/jpeg"}],"author":"No User","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_creator":"@Philanthropy","twitter_site":"@Philanthropy","schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/"},"author":{"name":"No User","@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#\/schema\/person\/a0106e94cff6e5757225faa5edbe3ab0"},"headline":"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges","datePublished":"2025-06-17T13:31:32+00:00","dateModified":"2025-10-20T21:38:53+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/"},"wordCount":601,"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg","articleSection":["Solutions"],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/","url":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/","name":"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges &#8211; Chronicle of Philanthropy","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg","datePublished":"2025-06-17T13:31:32+00:00","dateModified":"2025-10-20T21:38:53+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#\/schema\/person\/a0106e94cff6e5757225faa5edbe3ab0"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#primaryimage","url":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/brightspot-promo-npn-barronsegar.jpg","width":1680,"height":1120,"caption":"Nonprofits Now"},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/solutions\/listen-now-navigating-leadership-challenges\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Listen Now: Navigating Leadership Challenges"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/","name":"Chronicle of Philanthropy","description":"News, Opinion and Advice about Philanthropic Giving","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/#\/schema\/person\/a0106e94cff6e5757225faa5edbe3ab0","name":"No User","url":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/author\/no-user\/"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4402231126396","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/365206"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4402231126396"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4402231126396\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4402231124373"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4402231126396"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4402231126396"},{"taxonomy":"issue","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/issue?post=4402231126396"},{"taxonomy":"profile","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/profile?post=4402231126396"},{"taxonomy":"role","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/role?post=4402231126396"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/series?post=4402231126396"},{"taxonomy":"topic","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/topic?post=4402231126396"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.philanthropy.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=4402231126396"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}